that's the pro morsi line of thinking. the other line of thinking is that the muslim brotherhood is more hard line than they would claim to be, that this is a huge power grab, that we're going to see a hardening of islamic law, sharia law in egypt and we'll see sort of a turn in the region that would be quite worrisome. looking at facts, looking at what's happened, so far, morsi, although he sits under this umbrella of the muslim brotherhood, has not taken the strict sharia law into effect, no extreme dress codes for women. you have to look at the hype and you have to look at action. >> the real tell, seems to have a man crush on charlton heston. looking for peace, looking for balance. >> thank you, donny, for bringing us back to the essence of the matter. >> you can find so much wisdom in "planet of the apes," the old one, not the new one. i should let you read the interview. you got to buy the magazine. >> we all want to know. >> big charlton heston fan. >> we learn at the beginning of this very insightful interview that